Originally Posted by
shiznit
This TA gets you more days off.
This TA only adds a 7th SC for intl categories when the FTDT rules change and the 24 SC is eliminated....(FYI, the company is required to reopen negotiations once FTDT is finalized, another opportunity to improve work rules)
This TA caps and cuts roughly 1500 outsourced jobs just domestically.
This TA improves many work rules (on top of all the 1st SOT fixes)
This TA improves lots of QOL and gets you improvements now, instead of 2-3 years from now.
This TA fixes many problems DAL pilots wanted fixed. Do DAL pilots want even more? Of course!
Another airline hit the "3 years in mediation mark" yesterday.... Where is the leverage of a job action to make a deal better than waiting THREE YEARS for a 19.7% day one and $60,000 retro for FO's?
(name an airline that exceeded 19.7% and 100% retro on day one, plus a calculation to cover the retro on work rule and scope improvements for a previous time period...)
Shiz,
How come you and the other Yes voters seem to omit the negatives (concessions) of this TA:
1. We have a higher ALV (+2 hours) that will force approximately 6 extra days (minimum) per year that offsets any increases in vacation.
2. While any increase is good the increase in per diem (5%) doesn't even match our increases in costs (while we travel - food, etc) over the last 7 years since BK.
3. Reserves do get an increase in base pay BUT does not match the extra work they will be doing with ALV + 15, reserve guarantee +2, extra short call. Don't think the company hasn't modeled (remember the reason it takes more than a day to post schedules is because they make more than one run to make sure it is optimized).
4. We are still working for free (and all the money the company has saved with distributed training) by only getting 1 minute of pay for every 2 minutes of running time - can't figure how this one got through in the first place.
5. 4-8.5-3-3 loses 2-2.5% due to lost profit share and 3-4%/year (minimum - I and most others believe "real inflation" is much higher due to the way the government calculates inflation. So now, our 18.5% (19.7% compounded however you want to look at it) is only 3-4% after inflation (Max) which is no real increase in our standard of living.
6. While DCI is decreasing a little faster than it would have naturally, we are solving managements problems (our only real leverage - why do you think this deal got done so fast) and letting them exchange OLD 50 seaters (a little early) for brand new 76 seaters (likely with WiFi, IFE, and First class - thereby placating our HVCs) that will be around for 30 years (RA has said he will only buy new A/C with a 30 year life span). There is nothing that guarantees that this will increase main line jobs (SD's recent statements notwithstanding). I believe that this will allow DAL to exercise capacity discipline with DCI and reduce DCI block hours to comply with the new ratios.
7. Everyone seems to be missing that the new A/C will at first replace the DC-9s (the first 21 717s) which means no new pilots through at least 2014. In addition, the 737-900s have already been stated to be replacement A/C for domestic 757s/767s which will then be more lower paying jobs.
I'm sure I've missed a few more, just wanted to make sure we get some of the cons out there which DALPA is sure to leave out of all the road shows and NNPs.