Originally Posted by
evilboy
Thank you for explain it plainly.
Yes I was hired after that debacle. However I'm very good friends -to the personal level- with folks that went thru that, where involved in the talks, and have first knowledge of exactly what happened -and also didn't agree with JC at all-, and their accounts are totally opposite and greatly different from the ones I have heard from DL guys while riding the jumpseat. Jay, whom should I believe?. Anyhow, really no need for you to go. Please stay and lets agree on disagreeing. I do apologize for that anger mgmt comment.
Water under the bridge.
p.s. I have said this before and will re-emphisize it again, my beef is with DL mgmt only. And not having all the eggs in one basket does not apply at the present. They took care of that. So why shamefully dismantle a very efficient revenue stream?.
Evil, believe who you think is most credible. I'm not trying to persuade you. Like I said, I'm not basing my opinion on events that happened years before my time, I was directly involved. But you don't know my from Adam, so I don't expect you do take what I say as the gospel either.
It was your initial comment about the way things went down that got me riled up.
So let me put it this way:
Hypothetically, OH shuts down. You get shown the door. You go looking for work. Everybody in the country says "hey, apply to us, we'll look at you", except SkyWest. They say sure, but anything you have in your 401k you forfeit. (I'm sure there's plenty wrong with this analogy, but you get my point, as giving up a OH seniority number wouldn't mean much at ths point they're gone)
So you're kinda ****ed at Skywest, whether you applied there or not. Now, years later somebody comes along and says, "well sure, those guys should've donated ther 401k money, that's only right".
That's basically what the OH fo said to me, and kinda what I took your initial post to mean. Maybe I misread.
At any rate, I've sad it before, I'll say it again. At DAL usually cooler heads prevail. I'd be happy to have the good OH guys over here if you want to come.
Boomer comes to mind, he's a must have.
Yourself, working things out instead of insisting on being right no matter what, and captainv...rational, sharp....seems like a good guy.
If you know staylow, tell him "don't bother."
p.s., as to dismantling an efficient revenue stream, is that really the case? Or should I say, the MOST efficient. If they can find cheaper labor elsewhere? I feel your frustration. You'd think you might get rewarded for being a loyal underling for many years, but that's just not how it works. To fix this thing, regionals, I'm sorry to say, have to get killed off. All that flying, down to the smallest a/c needs to be under one umbrella. Might not be realistic, but that's how I vote.