Originally Posted by
rickt86
Our original 1113 and your 1113 are almost the same. You will get some TA like we are getting that will be much better. The real question is what is the long term plan for Eagle and what is the long term plan for PNCL. That also will shape different agreements for each group, based on different desired uses long term.
Some things are similar, but they are not even close to being the same. Pinnacle's 1113 is much worse. They have the same proposed cuts as us plus the following:
Pinnacle's
*Pay Rates. The proposal includes significant reductions in pay rates for Captains, ranging (according to the company) from 7 to 24% from current rates. There have also been further reductions in the proposed single First Office rates beyond one year of longevity.
*Pay Scales. The company has proposed capping pay for Captains at 12 “steps” and capping First Officer pay at 4 years of service. Moreover, the company is seeking a provision to require pilots who upgrade to begin at “Step 1” Captain pay, no matter their prior longevity as a First Officer (or, for pilots who have been previously downgraded due to a displacement, their time as a Captain). Such a scheme would be unique in our industry.
* Uniform Allowance. Eliminate uniform allowance.
*Per Diem. Eliminate Per Diem on day trips.
*Reserve Days Off. Reduction of minimum days off for reserve pilots to 10.
*Health Care. Instead of the two CDHP plans proposed in the May 8 term sheet, the revised term sheet includes only a single HRA plan, with a 35% pilot contribution.
I may have missed a few things, but I think I got most of them. I was ****ed when I say Eagle's original 1113. If they proposed an 1113 like Pinnacle's to us, I would have said go ahead and burn the mo fo down!