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09-25-2012 | 08:14 AM

#361

johnso29

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot

Thats the problem when people vote by emotions.

Voting NO is not voting with emotion. What drives you to vote YES may drive someone else to vote NO, simply because of where the two individuals are in their respective careers.

09-25-2012 | 09:06 AM

#362

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If you research RJ pilots posts, you'll find he is perfectly happy knifing his fellow pilots in the back as long as it is "good for him". Thus, any statements he makes cannot be taken objectively due to extreme personal bias toward his self-interest.

09-25-2012 | 09:57 AM

#363

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Originally Posted by eaglefly

Isn't that how it works? Im voting for whats good for me which is a Yes. The same thing can be said by those who vote No.
How is it working for you guys?

09-25-2012 | 10:04 AM

#364

johnso29

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot

Isn't that how it works? Im voting for whats good for me which is a Yes. The same thing can be said by those who vote No.
How is it working for you guys?

And therefore you CAN'T accuse someone of "voting with emotion" because they choose NO.

09-25-2012 | 10:22 AM

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D B Cooper

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot

Isn't that how it works? Im voting for whats good for me which is a Yes. The same thing can be said by those who vote No.
How is it working for you guys?

Considering AMR wants to enter into negotiations again with APA I'd say things are working. I guess the alternative is to never fight for what you want. But then again you are RJ pilot. I hope one day you can sit in your big new E175. Or maybe a 900. I hear they have 2 bathrooms. Can you believe it?

09-25-2012 | 11:29 AM

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Mason32

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Originally Posted by D B Cooper

Interestly enough her posts on all sites echo the sound of management stooge. Just reading her posts on these sites would make me vote no. Basic understanding AMR hasn't filed an 1113 so stating they will is guess work. You apparently agree that this is concessionary and not sec 6. Who signs an 8 year contract with bankruptcy terms. Jim Winkley is in NYC today. Saw him land. Surprised he didnt have secret service. More surprising why he would show up in NYC to scare more pilots. Unless they in Dallas are worried. You would think the MEC chair would show up not VP of flight. Guess he gets a bonus if it passes.

I'm told by internal sources that EGL ALPA has the ability to view the balloting numbers real time... Wouldn't be surprised to see them use that type of data to target where they send union/company stooges.

NY must be going heavily NO for them to drag out First Officer Winkley. He may be on loan from us to AE as your VP of flight, but he's on our pilot list as an FO. Was he given a leave of absence from AE when they weren't being offered to all? Will any of you get a LOA when/if you flow to AA?

What about your former negotiator turned federal mediation board member... Isn't he on a leave too? Another Bennie for a Team Tony player? When was his LOA approved? Better yet, why was your union paying for his ticket for him and his family at your NY family awareness event? This is the same guy we have to rely on to get released for self help? A guy who appears bought and paid for by your union and the company.