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Old 08-09-2012, 10:56 AM   #1  
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Default Eagle TA

Just got it, we know the MEC will approve it. What do you think? I have only glanced at it. And in case you don't know where to find the TA, they just emailed it.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:30 AM   #2  
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I will need to see the final contract language before I can make a decision, but based on these bullet points I am somewhat surprised. We have been told that our longevity is our biggest problem, and now they make no changes to that? Pay banding, PBS, and PTO in lieu of vacation saves them enough? Interesting.
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For those of us at pinnacle going through the same thing, please post when able
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Just skimmed through it..did I miss something big? Looks alright..PBS is the biggest difference..no pay or longevity cuts..also it's the first time I've seen anything that says CRJ900 and EMB175 in black and white.
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- Either 6 or 8 yr contract, if we go 8 we we get increased flow thru and frulough protection
-No pay cuts
-No longevity cuts
-Instead of sick or vacation, it will all be put in one bucket at the beginning of the yr and we will use it for sick, vacation, pvds, etc. So you will get 30hrs of sick time plus 21hrs for each week of vaction you have available for that year, so if you had 2 weeks your total deposit on Jan 1st would be 72 hrs. And if you have it left at the end of the year, you can carry over the equilvant of 2 weeks or get paid for it at the end of the year.
-fly the 900 for 700 rates
-no changes to 401k
-pbs, but its controlled mostly by alpa
-NYC co domicile
-Pay banding(hate this the most)
-Call in fatigued you can get paid, but comes out of your bucket
-DH paid at 50%
-Amendment round after 4 yrs
-Plenty more just listed what I could remember off the top of my head
-Free lap dances at Spearmint Rhino in KLAS, I got dibs on pure
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:09 PM   #6  
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90 seat jets eh?
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:09 PM   #7  
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Just skimmed through it..did I miss something big? Looks alright..PBS is the biggest difference..no pay or longevity cuts..also it's the first time I've seen anything that says CRJ900 and EMB175 in black and white.
That's what I'm thinking, are we sure TONY didn't quit and someone else take over, I really thought he was going to sell us down the river.
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My understanding is that you will live with this for 6-8/10 years if you vote it in. If you vote it down and go with the judge it might be worse but would only last until AMR comes out of bankruptcy. That would likely happen next year and then you can negotiate a new contract with a nonbankrupt AMR.

When you give it away it's gone forever. When they take it, it's still yours to get back.

AMR is not bankrupt this was a lobor gutting ploy and a 6-8 year deal is exactly what they want. Voting no screws up their master plane of having you as slave labor for the better part of another decade. Think you will be gone from eagle? With this contract you will have successfully encouraged the outsourcing of your future self.
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...could also just look better than meets the eyes compared to the 1113...kinda like wanting to pick up the hottest girl at the bar, get turned down..have a 1 fall into your lap..then when the 5 comes around, she doesn't look so bad
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Just skimmed through it..did I miss something big? Looks alright..PBS is the biggest difference..no pay or longevity cuts..also it's the first time I've seen anything that says CRJ900 and EMB175 in black and white.
I know yo guys are in a tight spot but RJ pilots are grossly under compensated as is. Stop the race to the bottom and giving them more incentive to outsource. The AA pilot sacked up. It's your turn. Enough is enough!
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