Originally Posted by
babs
I started off with an honest attempt to list the pros and cons of this TA. As I read through the TA, I found myself growing more and more frustrated as all I could come up with is more and more garbage.
Do you realize that we are in bankruptcy? Not section six.
Originally Posted by
babs
I cannot find any reason why a single FO (some CA's would get a raise from the pay banding so I could see how they would be suckered) would vote for this TA as it would amount to thousands of dollars in concessions and a serious backwards step for the entire industry. I have a gut feeling that this TA will pass due to the fear of uncertainty, but just look at the facts:
Pay banding was a way for the union to get the savings the company wants, it precludes its pilots from entering into multiple training events, or seeking equipment to obtain extra pay. It is much better than going back to pay step 15 for captains as it is requested if filed to the court on its 1113.
Originally Posted by
babs
-PTO only paid at 3 hours/day (this is huge, as you could currently have a 2 day trip with 1 leg the first day and 5 legs the next worth 10 hours and use one vacation day to get paid for the whole thing, whereas with the new TA you would have to use 10 hours of PTO time)
We get 3 hours per current blue book for vacation. (3x7=21) so no changes there. I do understand if you have vacation and your four day trip is more than 21hrs you would either lose some pay or use it from your PTO; however, if you have a 18hrs four day trip you still get your 7day vacation block and only get charged for 18hrs thus keeping 3 hours on your PTO bank that you can use later. Overall, PTO offers some more flexibility than what we have today.
Originally Posted by
babs
-No IAI adjustments for 2 years(If you are an FO making $40/hr and you fly 80 hours a month that equates to a minimum of $576/year (.6x80hrsx12months))
Once again eagle (AMR) is in bankruptcy, we were lucky we got to keep any IAI adjustments at all since we owe the company 2% on adjustments due to the 16 year contract. So even at that point we would be cash flow neutral after the two years. After that we get adjustments including Skywest something we didn't have before.
Originally Posted by
babs
-Per diem is reduced to $1.80 (since on 1/1/2013 our per diem would be increased to $1.95 we are losing $.15/hr which doesn't seem like much, but equates to $540/year if you average 300 hours time away from base each month ($.15 x 300hrs tafb x12months)
These are the FACTS.... We get paid $1.90
Browse other airlines and see what they get paid for per-diem:
Republic : $1.65
Skywest : $1.75
Expressjet: $1.80
Allegiant: $1.00
Air Wisconsin $1.60
Comair $1.75
MESA $1.36
Horizon $1.80
I could keep going but you get my point.... We lose 5 cents in bankruptcy and we are still at the top of the regional industry.
Originally Posted by
babs
-We will NOT be paid more to fly larger aircraft (E175/CRJ00)
Pay scales were stablished on the previous contract, new rates will be negotiated at the amendment round anything more than 79 seats has to be negotiated from day 1.
Originally Posted by
babs
-PBS (cannot emphasize enough how much we will lose in money and quality of life from thisdoes nothing to address our supposed longevity issue (in fact it will only make it worse by providing the most senior pilots the highest pay)
We get PBS either way the only difference is that there is an LOI that allows alpa to have some control over it. (pairings, actual schedule input, bid line quality etc) It will also will give us more time to do it outside bankruptcy. You feed PBS a bad contract it will give you bad QOL. (Please read the LOI if you want)
Originally Posted by
babs
-Flying during vacation is no longer paid at open time premium
That is a concession no doubt, as well as one week of vacation. If you have been at eagle 5+ yrs you lose it only for one year not forever as the 1113 wants it, but we get to bid it anyways. However if you can't live without it, you could fly OT and deposit it in your PTO to pay for it.
Originally Posted by
babs
If you are ever displaced you will be required to check your schedule every single day instead of once at noon prior to your original sequence
We don't get displaced too much, I'm sure It is inconvenient. But it shouldn't affect us much at all.
Originally Posted by
babs
-Deadhead pay reduced to 50%
I don't get to deadhead that much and if it helps me to keep my pay so be it.
Originally Posted by
babs
-Newhire classes can be cancelled immediately
Not much control over that......
Originally Posted by
babs
-Will someone explain to me that 30%bucket bs
Someone already did!
Originally Posted by
babs
-Reserve time balancing(what's the point of a seniority system)
They still respect seniority proffer until 75hrs credit, and then time balance, so. Seniority still applies.
Originally Posted by
babs
-The furlough protection doesnt protect approximately 75% of the FOs
We don't get any protection at all with the 1113. So how can that possibly be a bad thing?
Originally Posted by
babs
If I missed anything feel free to add, or correct me if I made any mistakes, as I am a couple beers in.
You don't want to accept that AMR is in bankruptcy. It is a process geared towards the protection of the debtor. Not the union and its members. We have a concessionary deal, ALPA has made that clear from the beginning. But when you compare that with the 1113, and the potential of a contract abrogation it seems at lot better than the unknowns.