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Old 10-21-2012 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by samballs
Making up with pension. Not really DAL doesn't have one so he can deposit into his 401k and alpa can match(saves money).
DAL most certainly does have a pension. It's just a defined contribution instead of the old defined benefit. Every pilot gets 14% of his gross salary contributed by the company without the the pilot having to contribute a dime. It will soon go up to 15%. The ALPA president isn't eligible to receive this, because he is not a Delta employee while he's the president, and doesn't receive a paycheck from Delta. The only way for him to get any retirement savings while he's president is for it to come directly from ALPA. As someone who's not a Delta employee, he can't even make voluntary contributions to his 401k while he's president.

He chooses to take position so its not a tdy, just like I choose to be based in ord I pay for an apartment cause I have to be there.
This is the sort of thing I was talking about about some of you seeming to want to punish the national officers for stepping up and volunteering to do a crappy high-workload job. Look, this is a temporary job. Your job at your airline is not a temporary job. When you bid to ORD, that could just as easily be a permanent position as a temporary position. Not so with the president. He's got a set term. He's there for four years. Expecting him to uproot his family, sell his home (probably at a loss), and move everything to one of the highest cost living areas in the country is just downright stupid. No one would agree to do it, nor should they.

Spending account we all know officers use spending accounts or what ever you would like to call it when they go to eat to discuss union duties,yep can't just talk about it at the office much easier to at a fine dining.
Fine. In that case, you don't need to receive per diem. After all, you can just as easily purchase fast food, which costs no more on the road than it does if you were sitting at home, so you don't deserve any additional compensation to make up for the fact that you're required to travel.

See how ridiculous this crap is? The guy is working his ass off for this union. Berating him for conducting business over a dinner and expensing it is completely unreasonable.

Don't give me that crap about a lot of people making 335, 000 this aint the early and late 90's
I didn't say that there were "lots," but yes, there are Delta pilots at his seniority making more money than he is, and they're working less in the process. It doesn't take too many green slips to reach that salary for a 767 captain, which is what Captain Moak is. What he's paid by ALPA is clearly within the range of reasonability.
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