Old 11-24-2012 | 10:42 AM
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horrido27
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
Interesting view. I'm usually with Motch on the overall no because I think we can send back just a couple of items to get reworked. But, we have to be on the same team. Either officially or unofficially. If it passes and an isl gets done, we'll be stronger. It will be under a substandard contract though. Both are definitely something to give thought to before voting. Either way, we have to stay together.
Problem is, if this JCBA is Voted in.. with all the loopholes and givebacks (and yes, I will also admit there are positives in it)..
Many of us Voting NO will most likely never support ALPA again. Be it National or Local. Therefore, the "Unity" won't actually exist and without that, there will be no Strength.

There were 7 Reps who held the line. But 19 who didn't. If the majority of the pilots are not willing to stand up and fight, than we are truly lost.
This TA will become the norm, and it will also be what we work under for the next 7 or more years. Because.. we will have shown management that there is no punishment nor incentive to negotiate the next contract on time, or even within a few years.
We will have shown management that you can delay for a few years, and then give a substandard deal on the table and the Pilots will take it.

What troubles me the most of these discussions is this-
Didn't everyone have certain minimums that they needed to Vote YES. At the same time, weren't there certain NO criteria that everyone had?

Motch
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