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Old 12-04-2012 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lerxst
Considering Bombardier and Embraer have shuttered new 50 seat jet production, and, as a complete industry segment are at the end of their financial service lives, and CALs scope prevented jets greater than 50 seat jets....... I'd keep CAL's.

Pontificate if you will about the dreaded Q400s but there are currently 14 in UAX service with a total of 32 being slowly brought online from Colgan and Lynx to RAH.
You can't keep CAL's. It's gone. Or maybe you didn't notice the 70 seaters cruising around EWR, CLE, and IAH?
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Old 12-04-2012 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveNelson
Would you care to share the source in which Gordon was "publicly quoted" saying such? Can you provide a link to the article or video in which he said this?

Here's a social media dialogue I had with Mr. Bethune a while back. Of course, I know I'm stirring a hornet's nest by challenging one of the Continental pilots' most cherished urban myths. Hammer away at me personally, if you wish. But, can you furnish that link?

Would you PLEASE post this in its own thread. It's too important to be buried. This urban legend appears to be just another line of crud delivered by the chest-beating "No" voters while they accuse ALPA of lying and "yes" voters of chest beating.
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Old 12-04-2012 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
Don't pay any attention to somebody with 47 posts. DirectLaw joined recently and everything he writes is saying how we should vote yes. One of Jeff's girls planted to post this stuff. Vote NO.
Classy, which is what I am starting to expect from this forum.

I've got 800+ posts and I agree with everything he said. Feel better now?
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Old 12-04-2012 | 12:54 PM
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No. I respect your opinion though. With 800 posts I can look back and see who you are and you've been here a long time and posted about other issues. The dude above joined and has posted only on the TA and his yes vote. If I were in management, I'd do this with 100 new names just to sway the vote. I'll apologize if this person sticks around after the vote. You are welcome to call me out on it.
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Old 12-04-2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
No. I respect your opinion though. With 800 posts I can look back and see who you are and you've been here a long time and posted about other issues. The dude above joined and has posted only on the TA and his yes vote. If I were in management, I'd do this with 100 new names just to sway the vote. I'll apologize if this person sticks around after the vote. You are welcome to call me out on it.
No worries. I think there are many folks that feel more passionately about this issue than anything we've dealt with before, so perhaps that's why there are some new posters. I certainly could be wrong. I try hard to stay off this forum, but it's like a rip current in the ocean. Just keeps dragging me back.
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Old 12-04-2012 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
No. I respect your opinion though. With 800 posts I can look back and see who you are and you've been here a long time and posted about other issues. The dude above joined and has posted only on the TA and his yes vote. If I were in management, I'd do this with 100 new names just to sway the vote. I'll apologize if this person sticks around after the vote. You are welcome to call me out on it.
I joined in early 2012. I usually don't post, just lurk. However, some of the "logic" that was being posted wrt the pending TA forced me off the sidelines.

I stand behind my posts and accept constructive criticism and logical rebuttal. Healthy debate is good. When I'm wrong, I usually am the first to say so.

PM me if you want to work out some reasonable proof of my status as a regular line guy.
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Old 12-04-2012 | 08:12 PM
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Fair enough direct. I don't disagree with all of your posts. I think it'll pass even though I'd vote no if not on leave. It'll pass because of fear though. There are some good points in the contract. From the CAL side they are just not good enough. I understand completely why the UAL guys would see it through. It seems if somebody is pushing too hard to get everybody to vote yes, it raises my suspicions. Truce. Pardon my sceptic ism I work for Smizek.
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