Originally Posted by 3raser

Management has informed the pilot group at ABX that they need concessions. If management gets what they want, they might be able to mitigate some or all of the 20 furloughs. I don't know what they'll propose but I'm guessing there will be no guarantees. We could give them the concessions and they could turn around and furlough even more next month.

Last time, they tried to get concessions on the Lima, Peru trip. We called their bluff and they backed down at the eleventh hour.

It seems to me that we have them over a barrel, at least for now. They can't take away most of our planes because of our scope. They don't want to furlough, let's say, 20 off the bottom because when they recall, they will have to recall guys currently at ATI or furloughed from ATI instead of the 20 they furloughed. If they recall the ATI guys, they will have to go through a lengthy and costly training program. They know it and we know it. I say we tell them to shove it up their tailpipe. Call their bluff and see what happens.