Do not be fooled. Joe Hete can show a loss anyway he wants, and continue to tout CAM as the revenue maker for ATSG while shifting losses where he needs them to influence labor negotiations. Just listen to his quarterly shareholder meeting statements. It is amazing how ATI's lease payments on the 8 can go up and suddenly ATI is showing a bigger loss and now there needs to be a furlough, to reduce higher salaried ABX furloughees.......it is all Joe Hete puppet game, where CAM is his golden goose. I woud be willing to bet that when ATI negotiations come around again, our new operating space in ILN will become even more expensive and suddenly ATI will be losing money again. Or the sim rates Uncle Joe charges on his 767 sims goes up, etc etc.