Originally Posted by 3raser

Well. It's not 20. I know the actual number is a moving target. There are 2 retiring which brings the number down to 18. Then there is another 11 to 15 positions that can be saved by a combination of company strategies that do NOT require ratification and pilot concessions. The company measures will happen whether the pilots give concessions or not so that will reduce the number. Unfortunately, the EXCO did not report the breakdown on how many furloughs will be reduced by company measures and how many will be reduced by pilot concessions. Then there are other measures such as voluntary furloughs, voluntary leaves of absence and early retirement incentives. So, the actual impact will not be know until near the end of December.


As far as the gambit of whether or not the CDG routes return and when. That is for management to consider and make decisions about. We should not start meddling with the seniority process based on speculation about matters that we know nothing about and have no control over.


As far as the unemployment checks go, there are 7 or 8 more furloughed ABX pilots who will begin their unemployment later this week. It could be argued that meddling with the process will prolong their unemployment while favoring much more junior members. Are the needs of one group more important that the other? The only really fair thing to do is to let the process run it's natural course. The union should not be involved in a process that alters the course of events to favor one group of members at the expense of another group.


Remember the words of APA 1224 lawyer Paul Rutter “Our position is guided by our sense of fairness to the Crewmembers remaining on the Seniority List, and our certainty that the appearance of meddling with the order and process of recall will result in further action neither side wishes to be bogged down in.”