Originally Posted by
EWR73FO
I'm not knockin' you for your opinion here but it's time for the lual pilots to step up and own their **** here. This load of crap about how the injustices that exist at lual are jp's fault is really making you sound like a a whiny-ass crack ***** in rehab. Man-up and take some responsibility for whats going on in your own house. Fix your **** and quit trying to look for a scapegoat cause things ain't going your way or your guys continually suck ass.
Look. I voted no but should this lump pass, so be it. I'm not happy with it, but I not going to sit here and **** in my beer and blame the next 5-10 years of this contract on you and every other lual pilot.
So very eloquently put.
I'm stating nothing but simple facts. If you have an example of how you were "wronged" by Jay H., please feel free to post away. I'll be MORE than happy to lay 50% of the blame of us not having a contract right at the very beginning of this merger (with equity, BTW) at the UAL MC at the time, Wendy Morse. In my opinion, she and Jay Pierce TOTALLY dropped the ball by allowing the DOJ to rule on the merger without pilot influence on the hill. As for the other "injustices" at L-UAL, most of those have absolutely NOTHING to do with Jay P., and I never suggested they did. I merely pointed out:
1) Pay banding
2) LOA 25
3) Side negotiations for profit sharing in direct violation of the TPA
4) 11th hour reversal of previous agreed to retro distribution
are all products of Jay Pierce and directly harm the L-UAL pilot group. Sorry if that hurts your delicate sensibilities, but they did actually happen.
That being said, in a way, the ineptitude of those 2 "leaders" actually worked in our favor. If we had gotten a TA before DAL's new contract, it would have been WOEFULLY inferior to the one we are voting on now.