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Old 12-14-2012 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
I'm not knockin' you for your opinion here but it's time for the lual pilots to step up and own their **** here. This load of crap about how the injustices that exist at lual are jp's fault is really making you sound like a a whiny-ass crack ***** in rehab. Man-up and take some responsibility for whats going on in your own house. Fix your **** and quit trying to look for a scapegoat cause things ain't going your way or your guys continually suck ass.
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I like it!!
C'mon UAL guys... be leaders again and take your legacy airline back!
Do you mean like whining about pay banding and profit sharing? Well, we are about to be leaders. We're going to rock this vote. There were 10007 eligible voters as of 11/01/12. A little more or less now, but close enough. 5529 on the UAL side and 4478 on the CAL side. Only 50% + 1 vote is needed to pass. Here are some really fun numbers to ponder. The percentages below represent YES votes.

ual 60% / cal 38%.............pass!!
ual 70% / cal 26%.............pass!!
ual 80% / cal 14%.............pass!!
ual 90% / cal 2%..............pass!!

There are 1900+ Airbus pilots at UAL. That's about 35% of the UAL pilot group, and 20% of the combined group. They are receiving 37% raises DOS and $45-65K signing bonuses. (now THAT's some profit sharing!) How many of them will vote NO???

The rest of us UAL guys will vote 2/1 in favor or this agreement by my estimates, which means we will need about 20% of you CAL fellows to make this TA a contract. 1 in 5 of you!!! I'll bet it's closer to 50/50 over there, which will put the overall vote at about a 64% pass. Bottom line, the UAL pilots are running a train on this vote. You may as well lay back and enjoy it, because it is happening...ohhh yeaaah...it's all gooood.

Merry Christmas
Sled the Unifyer

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Old 12-14-2012 | 07:11 PM
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sled...

as "NO" as I am, if & when it passes, I'll join hands with you and skip gleefully through the sprinklers as we spend our raises like drunken sailors on unicorn rides and fairy dust, with reckless abandon.

But we're going to have to grieve every edge of this thing to keep the puck in play.
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Old 12-14-2012 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Originally Posted by EWR73FO




Do you mean like whining about pay banding and profit sharing? Well, we are about to be leaders. We're going to rock this vote. There were 10007 eligible voters as of 11/01/12. A little more or less now, but close enough. 5529 on the UAL side and 4478 on the CAL side. Only 50% + 1 vote is needed to pass. Here are some really fun numbers to ponder. The percentages below represent YES votes.

ual 60% / cal 38%.............pass!!
ual 70% / cal 26%.............pass!!
ual 80% / cal 14%.............pass!!
ual 90% / cal 2%..............pass!!

There are 1900+ Airbus pilots at UAL. That's about 35% of the UAL pilot group, and 20% of the combined group. They are receiving 37% raises DOS and $45-65K signing bonuses. (now THAT's some profit sharing!) How many of them will vote NO???

The rest of us UAL guys will vote 2/1 in favor or this agreement by my estimates, which means we will need about 20% of you CAL fellows to make this TA a contract. 1 in 5 of you!!! I'll bet it's closer to 50/50 over there, which will put the overall vote at about a 64% pass. Bottom line, the UAL pilots are running a train on this vote. You may as well lay back and enjoy it, because it is happening...ohhh yeaaah...it's all gooood.

Merry Christmas
Sled the Unifyer


You and many other yes voters have made it known how you feel about the ta and why you are voting yes. What scares/disgusts me for this ta, any future contract, and this entire employee group after tomorrow, is what would it take for you and the other yes voters to vote no?

Please see blended rate thread..................
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Old 12-14-2012 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FurloughedX2
No. I am definitely not back at United. I am getting way more than a new hire at CAL right now, as I came over with my old 7 year airbus pay.

We shall see how the rest of this plays out with SLI and such. God Bless Us All.

I wish the airline industry sucked this much when I was a kid.....I would have never aspired to be in such a crappy profession.

Anyway, Happy Holidays to you LAX Pilot, and everyone else.
You got that right brother! If the industry looked 25 years ago like it does today, I would have made a right turn somewhere and not come into this profession...

Merry Christmas All!
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Old 12-15-2012 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Originally Posted by EWR73FO




Do you mean like whining about pay banding and profit sharing? Well, we are about to be leaders. We're going to rock this vote. There were 10007 eligible voters as of 11/01/12. A little more or less now, but close enough. 5529 on the UAL side and 4478 on the CAL side. Only 50% + 1 vote is needed to pass. Here are some really fun numbers to ponder. The percentages below represent YES votes.

ual 60% / cal 38%.............pass!!
ual 70% / cal 26%.............pass!!
ual 80% / cal 14%.............pass!!
ual 90% / cal 2%..............pass!!

There are 1900+ Airbus pilots at UAL. That's about 35% of the UAL pilot group, and 20% of the combined group. They are receiving 37% raises DOS and $45-65K signing bonuses. (now THAT's some profit sharing!) How many of them will vote NO???

The rest of us UAL guys will vote 2/1 in favor or this agreement by my estimates, which means we will need about 20% of you CAL fellows to make this TA a contract. 1 in 5 of you!!! I'll bet it's closer to 50/50 over there, which will put the overall vote at about a 64% pass. Bottom line, the UAL pilots are running a train on this vote. You may as well lay back and enjoy it, because it is happening...ohhh yeaaah...it's all gooood.

Merry Christmas
Sled the Unifyer

Ummmm....thats not what i meant miss
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Old 12-15-2012 | 05:10 AM
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When will we know?
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Old 12-15-2012 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by porqueno
When will we know?
It closes at 10:00 am eastern. Should know within an hour of that.
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Old 12-15-2012 | 07:54 AM
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Passed. 67%
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