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Old 12-11-2012 | 09:08 AM
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horrido27
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Originally Posted by A320
"What I’ve found is that most “yes” voters are voting “yes” due to a fear of the unknown."

My YES vote was not out of fear. Kind of like why I make my mortgage payment. It is not because I fear losing my house. I just know that not making the payment isn't likely to get CitiMortgage to come crawling back with an offer to lower my interest rate.
A320 Captain..
I'm glad you are not Voting YES out of Fear. If you truly believe this is a great TA, or that there is nothing you can do to make it better.. then there is nothing anyone is going to say that will make you change your mind.

I attended the EWR RoadShow (and got up to speak twice)..
A UAL 756 FO out of NYC got up and stated that "This TA Sucks. But I am Voting Yes"...
How should any of us view that?

He went on about not having a raise for many years, "fear" of the NMB and the unknown.. and for wanting to move forward, with a unified pilot group.

I'm sorry, but it will be hard to be a Unified Pilot group going forward if this thing passes. I'm being honest.

I've heard the statement that "If it passes, it's because of the UAL Pilots, and if it fails, it's because of the CAL Pilots".
Not sure how much truth is in that but my gut tells me that those sentiments may hold true.

Only thing to add is.. if it fails, we know that there will be another deal on the table. The unknown is when. 2 Months, 6 months, ?
But for that period of time, the "CAL" pilots will take the blame. OK.
But if it passes, I think the UAL pilots will take the blame for the next 6-7 years~
Again, just my opinion.

Motch

PS> I like your Citibank Mortgage rate comment. What about this- UAL needs labor peace to get better interest rates, moving forward. Isn't that some leverage too?
And what are we asking for that is so unreasonable??

Remove LOA25
Increase Retro/Lump Sum.
Revisit PayBands and adjust Payrates closer to Delta at DOS!
Tighten up Scope Language (with regards to B717 type Aircraft/Pay)
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