Originally Posted by
FurloughedX2
No. No credit for either furlough. That is what is upsetting the twice furloughed guys/gals. You can't give full credit to the L-CAL furloughees and give more credit than time served to some of the most junior L-UAL furloughees , but not give ANY credit to pilots at United hired in 1999 or earlier. I should be at signing of the TA at the 8 year mark with time served. Instead I will be at 5. I know, what's a couple of dollars an hour right? It is all very easy for the people who didn't get furloughed twice to rationalize. For us, it is a tough pill to swallow. With 13+ years at United, furloughed or not, we have been through the wringer. If you kept your job, all be it with a huge pay-cut and crappy contract, you still had an income and retirement and health and dental insurance for your families......We did not. Some of us are really upset and worried about the precedent that sets for the SLI . As I said before, it is a highly emotional topic, and not one that will easily be settled. In my case, if there was no LOA 25, would I be given the 8 year pay versus the 5 year? I am not sure. Perhaps someone from ALPA can answer that....or not. It is not clear to me. Maybe I need to hit a road show!
Here's the trick....you aren't back at United. You are a UCH holdings, flying on the CAL side. So we could give you 100 years of longevity, but you aren't a furloughed CAL pilot. So the idea is you are getting more than a new hire there, and until SLI, when we are on one list, you don't really get anything, but once you are on the combined list, it gets restored.
And any arbitrator is not going to care about pay longevity, etc. This will all be discussed during the SLI to death and we can all see through it.