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Old 01-21-2013, 06:41 PM
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MetalGear
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Default An FAA Type rating and ICAO Type Rating

Hello Everyone

I have been trying to understand the differences between how type ratings are conducted by the FAA and rest of the world ( read Indian DGCA and EASA / JAA )

The following is a sample of the minimum requirements needed to undergo a type rating on the CRJ 100/200

The Indian DGCA lets one undergo a type rating anywhere in the world as long they meet the minimum requirements laid down them .

I would appreciate if you could have a look and answer a few of my questions below

Endorsement Training on CRJ – 100/200 type of Aircraft

1. Jet Induction Training / Jet Orientation Training / Multi Crew Conversion – The trainee pilot shall undergo at least 12 hours of ground school followed by minimum 20 hours of classroom or CBT and STD. This training has to be at a facility approved for this purpose. (This training is not required to be undertaken in case the trainee pilot has past flying experience on Jet Aircraft). This may include any applicable training requirement which is a pre requisite for the following type rating syllabus. The Course content must then be increased appropriately.

2. Ground Training – The trainee pilot should undergo at least 72 hours of ground training. Ground Training must include a minimum of Aircraft Systems Training, general operational subjects training, CRM training, Systems Inclusion / Integrated Training, Weight and Balance Training, Aircraft Performance training and pre-flight inspection training. The ground training shall not be more than 8 hours in a day. There should not be any FFS simulator sessions during the ground training period. A ‘home study’ is not approved and no credit could be provided for the same.

2.1 At the end of ground subjects training, a written exam shall be conducted by the TRTO, with a minimum of 70 % pass marks (or higher if stipulated by TRTO). The certified marked answer sheets and tests should be sent to the Directorate of Training and licensing of this office in a sealed cover directly by the training institute for scrutiny and record.

3. Simulator Training – After completion of 1 and 2 above, the trainee pilot shall undergo a simulator training on approved Level ‘C’ or Level ‘D’ simulators as per details given below.

3.1 8 sessions of FFS training of duration of not less than 32 hours (which must include at least 16 hours as PF and 16 hours as PM) spread over 8 days. The duration of each session should be 2 hours as PF and 2 hours as PM each day. In case the trainee pilot is not attaining the required standard, he / she should be given appropriate training till a proficiency level is achieved before subjecting to a simulator test. The full flight simulator profiles shall include exercises to comply with the requirements of DGCA Operations Circular No. 2 of 2001. Further to the above, Profiles must include Circuits & Landings. The records of each simulator profile must be prepared duly remarked (including briefing and de-briefing remarks) and certified by the Instructor / Examiner. These should be sent to the Directorate of Training and licensing of this office in a sealed cover directly by the training institute for scrutiny and record.

3.2 Two hours of LOFT exercise as Pilot flying (PF) on a Level ‘D’ simulator.

3.3 After completion of the above, the trainee pilot should undergo 2 sessions of skill test (CA 40 checks) on a Level ‘D’ (ZFTT) simulator of duration of 2 hours, each with an examiner other than the one who imparted training.

3.4 The CA 40A(J) Checks (Skill Tests) by day as well as by night each must have three takeoffs and 3 landings which shall be demonstrated to an approved examiner as per the DGCA India CA 40A(J) check form. The required Pilot Proficiency Check (PPC) and IR check may be combined with the skill tests. The IR Check must be carried out with a minimum of 2 instrument approaches on 2 different approach facilities.

3.5 The trainee pilot shall undergo training on Low Visibility Operations (LVO) and All weather Operations (AWO) of 2 hours on Level ‘D’ Simulator. The purpose of this syllabus is to train all pilots to operate under All Weather Conditions.

3.6 AWO should include Wet Runway Operations, Heavy Rain, Cross Wind, Take Off and Approaches affected by wind shear and micro burst phenomenon to cover aspects of CAR on All Weather Operations dated 13.06.11, Section-8, Series – C, Part – 1 and FSF – ALAR toolkit.

3.7 The Type Rating Training syllabus being followed as per above shall in no case be less than what is being followed by the TRTO as per syllabus prescribed by the Contracting State.

3.8 After CRJ – 100/200 endorsement (type-rating) on your DGCA India license, trainee will be required to undergo a minimum of 45 minutes of familiarization aircraft training followed by a release route check for P2 (SIC) release, before exercising the privileges of the type rating. In case the trainee has not attained an acceptable level of proficiency, additional familiarization must be given till an acceptable level of proficiency is achieved. A report of the same should be submitted to this office for examination.
1) From the above it looks as if one needs around a minimum of 40 hours of simulator training . Does the FAA also require 40 hours of Simulator training as minimum ? If not then how much would a candidate require in order to obtain a full type rating ?

2) The skill test mentioned above is the equivalent of the FAA Checkride . One thing I have noticed is that they dont require an oral exam before the check ride . They only undergo a multiple choice written exam .

a) Does the FAA conduct a written exam as part of a type rating course ?

b) Does the FAA conduct an oral exam as part of the type rating course just like they do for PPL ,IR CPL and ATPL ?

c) If they do then what kind of questions are asked by the FAA Examiner ?

d) For how long does the oral exam usually take place ?

e) How long does the sim check take place ?

3. The Indian DGCA similar to the JAA / EASA requires pilots after the type rating to undergo at least 2 take off and landings without passengers on board prior to being allowed to carry passengers .

Does the FAA have a similar requirement ? If they do then how many take off and landings are required ?



I will appreciate all replies. Please feel free to identify any other differences that you might see is significant

Mods please move this thread to the correct section if this is not the right place to ask this question .

Thank you for your time
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