Originally Posted by
nitefr8dog
I am not sure "CAM owns" the aircraft I know for a fact when 600-750M worth of ABX aircraft went to CAM no money changed hands. Cam would have to come up with some serious cash before they could "claim" ownership. Now transfer to CAM.... a leasing company owned by ATSG for accounting purposes that is a different story. As far as ASIA goes...intra-Japan is the issue ABX has it as a one time only with after market cargo doors...whether that comes into play with ATI I have no idea.....
Well, when CHI bought ATI, we actually took a delay out of LAX so the new ownership paperwork could be updated, it was that important to them. I'm sure insurance drove that more than anything. Either way, CAM, at the stroke of a pen, became the owner of all of our aircraft. No idea whether our cheap DC-8s were bought for a symbolic $1 each, or what, but now we had to pay lease rates on planes we once owned. I'd guess ABX owns none of theirs, either. What better way to manipulate cash flow accounting?
I have no doubt that ATI was losing money after BAX shut down. We had planes and people sitting, huge training costs, minimal consistent revenue beyond the combis. But any claim of losing money at this point is either an outright lie to cover up the accounting shenanigans, or a lit neon sign that we have no business being in business, because we obviously can't cut it

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