Originally Posted by
MaydayMark
Like you, I was hired as a 727 s/o. I short time later they started hiring directly into the 727 f/o seat and assured us that we would be eligible for passover pay. I short time later I upgraded to DC-10 s/o.
At my year anniversary I expected to see the 727 f/o passover pay (I think it was higher than DC-10 s/o pay?). I didn't receive it ... when I called to find out why, I was told that I did not have 727 f/o on my last bid so I was not entitled to the passover pay. I asked where this was written so that I could verify this information for myself. I was told, "It's not written anywhere, that's just how we do it." ( I thought that was a bad answer and felt as though I had been cheated!)
If I were you I would write both my ACP and the payroll people with your understanding of how the systems works. If they write back that your understanding is correct, you can probably take that to the bank. I'd figure that they are not likely to put themselves on report after they emailed you what you wanted to hear (after all, you have it in writing now!).
I don't recall reading anything in the contract on the subject, seems like an oversight to me.
Hope this helps ...
Regards,
Mark
Not trying to poke Mark in the eye...but don't be Mayday on this one. Don't bid an FE position ahead of 727 FO. And always keep 727 FO on your standing bid. Have it ahead or behind any other aircraft, it doesn't matter for passover pay before or after the next bid. There are some finer points if you haven't upgraded before the bid in 2008 (the one after the upcoming bid). If you change your bid in 2008 waiting for MD 11 FO class scheduled per the training letter generated by the 2007 bid, you could lose passover. Odds are you will be an FO by then, but who knows with age 60 and the economy.
In any case you should talk with the person to go to on this. Contact Marynelle Taylor. She's in the global. She will tell you not to put FE on your bid. She will help you figure out your bid order to keep your passover.
Contrary to popular belief, the company doesn't want to cheat you on passover. They just don't make it easy to figure out whether or not it is coming. Marynelle knows all. If she makes a promise, it most likely has to be honored.