RedeyeAV8r

Adler

The Point is DAL, UAL, AMR and even USairways pay the Same for the 757/767. and it is Less than their Bigger Widebody AC
With the Exception of the 767-400 Their 75/76s are in the Same Bid pack.
They didn't use pay the same before their Bankrupt imposed Contracts.
The 767 use to pay more. Internationally it was further broken out.Bankruptcy Judges changed that for most of them and it wasn't for the better, just ask them.

Ask the Delta/ UAL AMR pilots if they would like their 767's to pay 18% more than their 757's.
Ask them if they would prefer all of their 767 be placed in the smae Pay Band Group of their 777, 747's or A330's.


I am not picking on LAG, I get his opinion.

It is apparent we have different outlooks due to our Seniority.
I don't fly the Boeing, he does. I can Hold the WB airplanes at a Line holding Seniority, (although not as Senior as I'd like), I don't think he can (Assumption only). FedEx parking all the 727's . These guys have to go somewhere , Furthermore FedEx is going to start parking A300/310's, MD10s. These Pilots will have to go somewhere.
FedEX is buying 757's left and right. These are by Contract Narrow Bodies. FedEx has order what 40 + or- 767's? I can only assume more 767's will follow, probably many more as something needs to replace the old MD10 and A300's. Currently 767's are in 26k status, they are not in a Determined Category. I think we all agree we want them in a WB category. I think we all want to protect as many Widebody seats
as we can.


I understand FDX Junior guys who can't hold a WB bid now, or those on Eternal Passover Pay , or those who prefer to (exercise their seniority) by staying Senior eon the 757 would relish the opportunity to Occasionally make WB pay under a Single Bid pack. The problem is there is NO Guarantee 767 lines would be built pure in a Combined Bid Pack. With the LOA if their is a Line that is all 757 Pure It pays WB pay. Which is Better in the Long term for ALL?

Using the same reasoning for those that desire a combined 75/76.
What if FedEx hits hard times and comes to us for Concessions in the future?
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Think about this. Would we ever want agree to reduce the A310 to a NB and keep in in the Same Bid Pack as the A300 or do the same with the MD-10 in the MD-11 Bidpack? After all they are smaller and carry less? Isn't that really the same thing as what the 757/767 would be in one Bid Pack?

What if the Company buys the 767-400? Should we lump this in with the 757 Too?

If I had my wish, this LOA would make the 767 in its own Bid pack in the Wide body category entirely separate with no cross pollenating, but it doesn't. I bet the NC would like this too.

Now barring that, I wish the 757 would be paid as a WB but it isn't. While that has its issues too, it would certainly make things easier, although the more Senior 757 Pilots who elect to stay on the 757 for Seniority wouldn't be happy as if that were the case, the 757 would become the Senior airplane imho.


Debate is healthy, Debate is good. Many good and bad scenarios have been brought up here. There are Pros and Cons to everything.

So now we all have a Choice to make. Take the Deal that our NC and MEC has put before us (yes it has some shortcomings), Contractually Establish the 767 as a WB category, with its own Bid Pack (sort of) or.......

Vote this thing down and hope our NC can improve it before the Company posts a 767 Vacancy Bid (rumor has it by Late April early May).
If there is No agreement do you think we will get a better deal with the 26K arbitrator? Do you not think people will bid the 767 without any deal? And Unlike the 777, we already have 767 pilots trained, they just need a day or 2 of differences and are ready. Do you think we can get a Full Ratifiable Contract before the first 767 shows up in August?

Whatever your Opinion.......a 100% vote would be Something.