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Old 03-24-2007, 03:20 PM
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WEACLRS
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Originally Posted by kronan View Post
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0500 show
( deadhead )
0800 arrival and release to the hotel
1430 show
( flight 0000 1530 22:45 )
2300 release

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In this scenario his duty day began at 0500 with the DH. At the start of his leg at 1530 (assuming a one hour prior to departure show time) he would have to look at the time of the scheduled completion of the flight (the planned 23:00 release) and look back through 24 hrs to find eight consecutive hours of rest. In this case take 23:00 - 24 hours, which is 23:00 the night before, plus 8:00, is 07:00 the current morning. Since he showed at 05:00, he is not legal to start the flight at 1530 because that does not give him eight hours of consecutive rest anywhere in the 24 hr look back.

They could have released him at 08:00 and not had him show until 16:00. Then when he took the scheduled completion of the flight and "looked back" 24 hours, he would have found 8:00 hours of rest (0800 to 1600).

In fact this type of schedule is done a lot. Just change the times a little. It's called a stand-up. Show at say 20:00 for a deadhead flight to an outstation at 20:30. Lets say the flight gets in at 22:00 and you are off to the hotel. Morning show at 4:30 for a 5:30 departure back. That's 7:30 of rest...not enough. But the flight is scheduled to arrive at 7:00 and you're off duty at 7:15. The schedule duty is a total of 11:15. Legal.

However, what happened enough at our regional was the flight would end up having a mx problem in the morning and get delayed. The clock's ticking. Since the previous day's show was at 20:00, and there has not been at least 8 hours rest, the flight must leave by 10:15 to make it back, with the scheduled flight time, in order for the flight crew to be off duty by 12:00 (10:15 plus 1:30 flight plus 15 mins post flight), in this case 16 hours after the 20:00 show the previous night. After they got burned a bunch of times they started to scale back the stand-ups.
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