Originally Posted by
PicklePausePull
I think Starship is correct. The pay scales were established by ALPA a few generations ago and serve only to complicate bidding and run up training costs for the company. This excess bid is a fine example of redundant training costs and seat movement. Excessing out of the 777 to then move pilots into the 777. Ridiculous!
One pay scale that only differentiates left seat and right seat and longevity would eliminate much of this musical chairs: guys getting knocked out of seats within one year of having been trained in that seat. What a waste of money!
OK, I'm in....let's say "We want a substantial pay increase for our wide body rates and we want all the narrow body guys to get the same [increased] rate. Oh and BTW, we're really not willing to give up anything for this swell idea. However, you'll save a ton of money on training pay" Is that about it? Or, maybe you think we should meet in the middle?
Fact is, UPS is the odd man out here. Go through the pay charts on APC and you'll see that more pay for bigger equipment is the industry standard. The fact that a guy flying MEM-TUL in an A-310 gets the same rate as a 777 guy flying MEM-DXB makes the rest of the industry think we're nuts......as opposed to us not having a single pay rate like UPS. Trust me, if the company thought the savings were worth it.....it'd happened a loooong time ago. I appreciate your concern for the company's training costs and "waste of money", but really, do you think you care more than that manager eager for a five star award for saving money? Lastly, the narrow/body wide body split happened when FedEx got the DC-10....pre-ALPA, and in fact pre-union.....couldn't have the dirty 30 getting the same pay as those low life 727 and Falcon losers now could we
