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Old 04-23-2013, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pakagecheck View Post

Tony, for some reason I thought the bid came out, age change law in effect, bid cancelled and then reissued and closed then there was the DC-10 excess bid. It not happen this way?

Originally Posted by Pakagecheck View Post

I understand the need for excess bids and their process. I was specifically asking for the timeline. I thought the bid was posted, then the age change went into effect. The bid was subsequently cancelled and then reposted. After it closed, then we had the DC-10 excess bid. The thing that most don't realize was, since the bid reopened and had vacancies, there were some senior DC-10 f/e's (way senior to me) that could only hold nb f/o on the vacancy bid and they wanted to guarantee a window seat. Yes, some held the left seat of some a/c and some held the right seat of some. Since they bid out on the vacancy bid, once the excess bid came out, the individuals that had bid out(even if they hadn't gone to training yet) we not part of the excess, so didn't get to go directly to whatever they could hold. Believe it or not, this actually was better than if they only had the excess, where they all could have gone directly to the WB capt seat or the highest seat possible. I am not justifying the actions of some or their reasons for doing so but sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

OK, the Regulated Age changed on December 13, 2007.

All of the Vacancy and Excess Postings prior to that are no longer on the pilot.fedex.com website. I have them archived, but I'll have to look later to see if there was a Posting which was issued before the 13th and cancelled after.

Posting 08-01 Jan 02, 2008 -- 149 Vacancies, 37 Excesses (all SFS)

Posting 08-02 Apr 15, 2008 -- 95 Vacancies (HKG FO and B-757), 377 Excesses (B-727 and DC-10, all seats)

Posting 08-03 - Cancelled


If memory serves, the Posting prior to the age change you're thinking of closed -- wasn't cancelled -- but many of the individual bid awards were cancelled.

If you're saying that the shuffling of senior pilots over 60 was more orderly with the Vacancy Posting than with the Excess Postings, I agree.






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