Not sure how the whole mil/cvi thing got into this, anyways.......
Originally Posted by
highsky
I went back and looked up the resumes of my classmates on the UPS website. I made a couple of mistakes to my earlier post: For civilian guys, in addition to 747 and MD-11 Cargo Captains, we had one L-1011 Captain. We also one straight 767 Captain with a ton of PIC international time with Avianca. He was born in Colombia, he was the senior at 43, and he was a super nice guy and sharp pilot.
For the Fighter guys who want a career with UPS, I apologize. I don't want to scare you into thinking you don't have a chance. My class had ONE guy with a fighter background. He was an F/A-18 Naval Reserve Squadron Commander. He was a genius, a gentleman, and a stellar pilot. He had educational degrees, and both civilian and military accomplishments up the ying-yang. He was also a furloughed UAL 767 FO with Class II Nav experience.
Those are the facts, as they pertain to my class of about 18. At the time, DEC 06, UPS had a policy of requiring 1000 PIC Heavy-jet, Transoceanic. This happened because at the time, all new-hires were going to PANC to fly the MD-11, which is legendary for its landing challenges. After several expensive landing incidents where the flying pilot had an RJ or Fighter background, they decided they would only hire pilots with Heavy-jet backgrounds.
Like I said, I'm not sure that was EXACTLY the case. Guys from BOTH the regionals I worked at were hired at UPS at that time. And I SPECIFICALLY remember doing the app/resume upload at that time. 1000TPIC was there, as well as the ClassII nav experience. Don't remember the REQUIREMENT for the heavy PIC. The guys I know that got hired NEVER had heavy PIC, they were MD11 FO's at World and GAC.
What was comical to read (on this message board) wasn't mil vs' civ peeing contest, but the inter-platform rivalry-bickering that ensued between fighter and tanker/transport at that time.