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Old 05-11-2013 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by highsky
If I'm the A code, I log the entire flight as PIC. If I'm not the A Code, I count none as PIC, seat time as SIC, and Other as "Other" in its own column. I count Other in my Total Time, but its really useless for anything else.
In a perfect world, I agree with what you wrote. See next comment.

Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Bingo. If you sign for the jet whether you are in the seat or not, you are a required pilot and it is part 1 PIC time. This has been discussed many times and is cut and dry. That is what airlines are looking for when they are asking for PIC time, not time in the seat. Otherwise, you are saying during that "bunk time" there is no PIC since the two pilots flying didn't sign for it.
I completely agree with you. However, how are you going to calculate your flying time when the application or website says the following:

2 PIC for this purpose is defined as Captain/Aircraft Commander of record, not simply the sole manipulator of the controls. For military personnel, Southwest Airlines will allow flight time logged as "Pilot in Command" (PIC) only if you are the Captain/Aircraft Commander, Evaluator, or Instructor Pilot. Primary time will only be considered PIC on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander in the appropriate aircraft. Time logged as "Other Time" will not be considered.

I'm asking a question, not throwing spears. This is why I was conservative and avoided this pitfall all together.

Are you willing to follow their instructions or argue your case in the interview room?
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