USAF Flight Time
02-20-2014, 08:50 AM
#122
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Originally Posted by Mustangcbra
So here is a good question. When logging sim time in a level D C-17 simulator would it be wrong to log this as flight time? Im hearing alot of different schools of thought on this even in my own Squadron.
02-20-2014, 07:14 PM
#123
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From my experience at interviewing at three airlines (hired by all three), the fact that you're a military pilot is golden. Nobody cares about tenths of an hour conversions or having super high flight time. They know that even in a career, a military pilot may only have 3000-5000 hours depending on the weapon system. The vast majority of that should be PIC. Nobody cares about simulator or drone time. Probably no one will ask for a logbook, just a military flying summary to check that you are what you say you are. Don't get hung up about flying time. It's the quality of that time that's important.
What they are concerned about:
1. Normal progression to aircraft commander and instructor. Instructor hours are considered PIC time.
2. Staying in flying for a good part of your career and recent flying currency is a big plus. Someone who spends most of their career in non-flying staff work is suspect in their dedication-to and like-of flying . . . . and keep in mind that in an airline, that's ALL you're going to be doing.
3. Not getting an idiot, geek, head-case, someone that can't let the military mindset go, or someone who might have problems in training.
4. Someone they wouldn't mind going on a 4-day trip with.
Don't be complacent, but don't get up-tight either. Likely the pilot interviewer was a former military pilot themselves. If your credentials and experience are up to standard, they know you can fly. That's not in question. But "who you are as a person" is what they're looking at closely . . . . friendly, confident, easy-going, not arrogant, affable, flexible, and competent.
What they are concerned about:
1. Normal progression to aircraft commander and instructor. Instructor hours are considered PIC time.
2. Staying in flying for a good part of your career and recent flying currency is a big plus. Someone who spends most of their career in non-flying staff work is suspect in their dedication-to and like-of flying . . . . and keep in mind that in an airline, that's ALL you're going to be doing.
3. Not getting an idiot, geek, head-case, someone that can't let the military mindset go, or someone who might have problems in training.
4. Someone they wouldn't mind going on a 4-day trip with.
Don't be complacent, but don't get up-tight either. Likely the pilot interviewer was a former military pilot themselves. If your credentials and experience are up to standard, they know you can fly. That's not in question. But "who you are as a person" is what they're looking at closely . . . . friendly, confident, easy-going, not arrogant, affable, flexible, and competent.
03-04-2014, 09:34 AM
#125
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Two PCS adventures ago my wife and I had some bags stolen during the delivery process. Claim filed, money received. In one of the bags, which I was unaware of at the time, was my civilian logbook. It's not a lot of time, but 220 hours is 220 hours. I have a picture of the last page from 2010. I want to include the time in my apps for the airlines, but I can't provide the logbook as proof? How would you guys skin this cat? I'm lower in TT so every little bit helps. When I accessed into the AF I was given "full" credit for flight time over 200 hours; verified by my PCSM score. The PCSM is still available online. What I want to avoid is having to aggressively defend my times in an interview. Thoughts and comments appreciated.
03-04-2014, 01:18 PM
#127
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I'm not sure of the exact time, but I thought it was North of 1000 hours for ARMS to put civilian time into the system - your CHARM should be able to find it for you in 11-401.
I am in a similar boat - as you only require your signature to "certify" the time, I wrote an MFR stating the circumstances of what happened to my logbook (also stolen). I wrote what times in what aircraft, and in what phase of flight with an approximate number of landings - basically a one sheet summary of the log-book. And then, just for good measure, I got the JAG to notarize it. The 220 hours is (hopefully) only a small percentage of your time, so I can't see an airline dwelling on small, single engine time when you have proven the mad-skillz in complex turbine airplanes...
I am in a similar boat - as you only require your signature to "certify" the time, I wrote an MFR stating the circumstances of what happened to my logbook (also stolen). I wrote what times in what aircraft, and in what phase of flight with an approximate number of landings - basically a one sheet summary of the log-book. And then, just for good measure, I got the JAG to notarize it. The 220 hours is (hopefully) only a small percentage of your time, so I can't see an airline dwelling on small, single engine time when you have proven the mad-skillz in complex turbine airplanes...
03-05-2014, 05:39 AM
#129
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FYI-For the FAAs guidance take a look at the 8900.1:
Flight Standards Information System (FSIMS)
Search Vol 5, Chap 1, Sec 8
Hope that helps
FYI-For the FAAs guidance take a look at the 8900.1:
Flight Standards Information System (FSIMS)
Search Vol 5, Chap 1, Sec 8
Hope that helps
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