Wow there is so much here it is difficult to know where to begin. First and foremost you have two groups represented by the same “association" yet the food fight is just beginning and will no doubt soon resemble what we have seen for over seven years at USAir, where of course the next episode of that trilogy is about to explode. Secondly you have someone who believes that earning what we currently earn in our profession is about as good as it gets, even though plumbers, electricians, government administrators, and pharmaceutical salesmen, just to name a few, may do much better than we do and be home almost every night. Finally you have those who want to say that deregulation happened and that there simply isn't anything that we could have done about it then much less today, so just forget about it and move on. What a pathetic, uninformed, short sighted group we have represented here. The only fix for this sorry mess is a real union, something ALPA has never been. You would think that a group of educated professionals would take the time to examine where we are today, how we got here and try to determine how we must change to exit the death spiral we, as a profession, have been in for over three decades. Instead we just keep the turn going adding more aileron and more rudder hoping that by doing what got us into this mess will somehow get us out. Way to much here and there must be a better use of time than trying to get the members of our profession to wake up.