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Originally Posted by chazbird 
ALPA Minimum: 45K for first year FO on probation. 60k second year. 1st Year captain 80k. After that ALPA can negotiate within each carrier.
ALPA?
Sorry friend, I am trying to stop laughing and fight back tears at the same time. The first thing you guys should do is show your AFLCIO lap dog airline manager's union the door.
Then, tell the age 65 fart dust crowd at Delta and United to eat feces and die. ALPA has done nothing but run from every single fight that mattered. Those that came before you had no right to bargain away your future and you guys need to find the stones to walk off the property or quit showing up for interviews. This is a simple concept and yes, its painful, but the only thing you guys have is your feet...
use them.
Didn't read my whole post, maybe you were laughing too hard. I despise the current ALPA. I didn't always, and I'm one of those that "came before you". The last 15-18 years is enough to prove how useless they've become. I merely wrote "ALPA minimum" as some sort of pay example. If a trade union (they hate the term union, nee association) can't establish a basic livable minimum for its members its a plain failure. If ALPA can't do a base minimum then there needs to be a reformed or new union that can. I sort of doubt a single airline or an a membership cabal of airlines would be the slightest bit interested. Besides, most of them have ALPA!