Fair wage scale for regionals?
12-13-2013, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
The only reason that First Officers are paid so low is because Senior Captains want it that way. There is a single pool of money that the company is willing to give to the entire pilot population. The union and its membership decide how to divvy it up.
I would think that most companies, in the absence of a union, would want a flatter pay scale where FO's make more and Captain make less.
I would think that most companies, in the absence of a union, would want a flatter pay scale where FO's make more and Captain make less.
Lower CA pay at regionals would discourage lifers...really no reason for 12 year pay scales...and encourage moving on to bigger and better things for senior guys, where the loss in seniority via moving up the ladder would be nullified by the pay raise.
Of course these are just arbitrary numbers in a perfect world
but as someone earlier said, pilot compensation at the regionals is mostly simple economics: supply and demand. Hopefully the equilibrium point starts sliding our way soon...maybe 
12-13-2013, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorbuc99
The disparity between top end CA & junior FO pay at regionals is asinine. I can perhaps understand first year being disproportionally low (~30K) as you work through being a probie but 2nd year you should spike up dramatically, maybe even top out there (~$65K) CA pay should also top out after year 2 (~$95K).
Lower CA pay at regionals would discourage lifers...really no reason for 12 year pay scales...and encourage moving on to bigger and better things for senior guys, where the loss in seniority via moving up the ladder would be nullified by the pay raise.
Of course these are just arbitrary numbers in a perfect world but as someone earlier said, pilot compensation at the regionals is mostly simple economics: supply and demand. Hopefully the equilibrium point starts sliding our way soon...maybe
Lower CA pay at regionals would discourage lifers...really no reason for 12 year pay scales...and encourage moving on to bigger and better things for senior guys, where the loss in seniority via moving up the ladder would be nullified by the pay raise.
Of course these are just arbitrary numbers in a perfect world
but as someone earlier said, pilot compensation at the regionals is mostly simple economics: supply and demand. Hopefully the equilibrium point starts sliding our way soon...maybe Unions and Airlines
12-16-2013, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorbuc99
The disparity between top end CA & junior FO pay at regionals is asinine. I can perhaps understand first year being disproportionally low (~30K) as you work through being a probie but 2nd year you should spike up dramatically, maybe even top out there (~$65K) CA pay should also top out after year 2 (~$95K).
Lower CA pay at regionals would discourage lifers...really no reason for 12 year pay scales...and encourage moving on to bigger and better things for senior guys, where the loss in seniority via moving up the ladder would be nullified by the pay raise.
Of course these are just arbitrary numbers in a perfect world but as someone earlier said, pilot compensation at the regionals is mostly simple economics: supply and demand. Hopefully the equilibrium point starts sliding our way soon...maybe
Lower CA pay at regionals would discourage lifers...really no reason for 12 year pay scales...and encourage moving on to bigger and better things for senior guys, where the loss in seniority via moving up the ladder would be nullified by the pay raise.
Of course these are just arbitrary numbers in a perfect world
but as someone earlier said, pilot compensation at the regionals is mostly simple economics: supply and demand. Hopefully the equilibrium point starts sliding our way soon...maybe
12-16-2013, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by toomanyrjs
That's exactly as it should be. A regional "captain" should top out at two or three years then drop by ten to twenty percent per year. This would encourage the deadwood to either move on or get out if they can't cut it by then and get a real job.
If you want a shot at changing this, get a few other pilots who feel the same, then the bunch of you run on this single point together.
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