Originally Posted by Monkeyfly

My experience talking to UA pilots upset with this proposal is that they are falling for the fallacy that this is a negotiation or a bid, where you should ask for what you want, you might get it.

But the time is coming shortly where the arbitrators will ask for input from both sides on the actual structure of the list. And they won't be asking for W2s, retirement plans, grievance lists, CEO hearsay/testimony, SEC filings, number of winglets, etc.

The side that can defend its input based on career expectations, status and category, and longevity in a fair way to both sides to a greater degree will influence the final outcome more.


In regard to UA pilots being mad about the UA proposal; free beer to the first to answer this riddle:

What do you get when both sides are upset with the result?