Originally Posted by
horrido27
OM/JB...
I need to correct you (and others) about the above statement. And since I was at the meeting, I feel I have a right to speak (write).
Two LUAL Furloughs/CAL Newhires were asked to leave when TM (part of the LCAL Merger Committee) got up to do a presentation and Q&A. No one was "tossed out of a union meeting".
The two pilots in question made no fuss... didn't object nor did Rob S (LUAL NYC VC) complain. They were out of the room for maybe 15 mins.
Had they said something.. I would image the outcome would have been different.
On numerous forums/threads, the phrases "Kicked Out" and "Tossed" has been used. That is just not true and is sensationalizing what happened.
We have a long way to go before there is unity with this new, combined Pilot Group. Come Tues (Aug 27) we will see which names are on the ballot and hopefully continue to make small steps towards Unity.
But pilots continuing to write posts about something that they were not actually at does not help. Just my opinion~
Motch
Motch,
You know I respect your opinion, but I will have to disagree on this one. If I was in a room full of peers and I was "asked to leave", I would not argue at the time as it would be fruitless, but obviously no one attending a meeting would choose to leave on their own so whether it was a polite request or not, the pilots were "asked to leave"="kicked out"="tossed out". If you are trying to build unity you don't keep secrets, you discuss your concerns openly, intelligently, and with an open mind. Asking a fellow member of ALPA to leave an ALPA meeting because they are affiliated with another group is to me not unlike interning Japanese during WWII. It is prejudicial and short sighted, and I must admit very much in keeping with what I have come to expect from the CAL-ALPA leadership. All in all the story leaves a horribly bitter taste in my mouth, and I will be coming to New York on the 76 soon enough so I'll be flying with some of the pilots at this meeting for sure. I only hope we can all keep this out of the cockpits. Good-news is I have never had anything less than a stellar experience with CAL pilots that I meet on the line, and I fully anticipate that will hold true in the future.
Joe