I empathize with the double furloughees, but at the same time, they have to accept responsibility for their choices, even if it was just bad luck.

If I were a 2000 or 2001 hire at UAL, and saw all our work rules go away in bankruptcy, I would have never looked back at UAL. We didn't outsource flying right away to RJ's, we outsourced flying to - ourselves. We flew the same number of flights with A LOT fewer pilots.

The more senior furloughees had a brighter outlook.

I have a half a dozen old squadron mates that were hired at UAL in 2000-2001. All are JB , Fedex, UPS, SWA, etc. None are ever coming back to UAL.

I think the arbs were wise in integrating some of the furloughs with active, but not all.

In the end, we take the cards we are dealt, and make our own choices. Choosing to come to UAL for the 3rd time?

I like to think I would have been a faster learner than that.