Originally Posted by
Probe
I empathize with the double furloughees, but at the same time, they have to accept responsibility for their choices, even if it was just bad luck.
If I were a 2000 or 2001 hire at UAL, and saw all our work rules go away in bankruptcy, I would have never looked back at UAL. We didn't outsource flying right away to RJ's, we outsourced flying to - ourselves. We flew the same number of flights with A LOT fewer pilots.
The more senior furloughees had a brighter outlook.
I have a half a dozen old squadron mates that were hired at UAL in 2000-2001. All are JB , Fedex, UPS, SWA, etc. None are ever coming back to UAL.
I think the arbs were wise in integrating some of the furloughs with active, but not all.
In the end, we take the cards we are dealt, and make our own choices. Choosing to come to UAL for the 3rd time?
I like to think I would have been a faster learner than that.
What I learned fast was that despite the best of choices is that there is always a group of pilots that will work cheaper and do management's VJM dirty work and aid mergers. Our 30 airplane parking turned into 94 overnight once Glenn found a CEO merger buddy that had just the group for the job. Save the conspiracy heckles...I lived it.
Glad you agree w the arbitrators...don't forget CAL MCwanted to staple ~1600 never furloughed! Oh yeah, bet we upgrade faster than your buds that bailed, but I won't then bust anyone's marbles for their hindsight choice! How come none of your squadron mates didnt bail to CAL? Maybe they weren't smart and charmed enough?
Maybe your buds should have chose a JV team back in 2000 to avoid getting caught up in a direct attack from extremist terrorists. If only we could have had your genius powers and chose wisely.