Originally Posted by
Mason32
You do realize that for the wholly owned regionals, their HR dept is typically the mainline HR dept. For example, the past decade AA hasn't hired; but the HR dept was kept busy doing Eagle hiring... To say the Eagle pilots haven't already interviewed at AMR is a joke.
As I said in my post: "I'll admit up-front my knowledge of regional carriers is limited". I meant that as an honest disclaimer. As a Delta pilot I am most familiar with what goes on here. Both Comair and ASA were wholly owned by Delta. My recollection is Comair did the hiring at Comair, ASA did it's hiring and so did Delta. I'm not aware of any mainline Delta involvement in the hiring processes at either ASA or Comair. Maybe it happened, but I'm not aware of it.
Originally Posted by
jethikoki
...but when a major buys out a regional historically it has not been a very good outcome for the regional pilots in the long run. Do you see any inequity there?
As far as furloughed pilots, why is there so much resentment towards regional pilots? It seems to me regional pilots had nothing to do with any mainline pilot furlough. Fellow mainline pilots however did when they gave up scope which ultimately allowed more mainline pilots getting furloughed in the first place. Without any agreements or flow up or down what could regionals have done for furloughed pilots or was it just easier to direct resentment towards regional pilots then at their fellow mainline pilots?
I did not advocate a "short-circuit" as you say. I said keep it like it is and so for those that go to the mainline have to get the interview and test.
I'd agree with you that it hasn't worked out well for the acquired regional pilots. (Again this is based on my memory and could be wrong.)
There was a great deal of bad blood between Delta pilots and Comair pilots. To be honest that's a very long story in it's own right, but two things come to mind: One was the RJDC (Regional Jet Defense Coalition), Two, after 9/11 I believe it was the Comair MEC, rather than try and help Delta pilot furloughees, insisted that Comair management require furloughed Delta pilots to resign their Delta seniority number as a condition of employment at Comair.
There was also what was perceived by mainline Delta pilots as a "seniority grab" by Comair pilots, and IIRC to a lesser degree by ASA pilots. The gist was since they were now part of Delta the seniority lists should be combined and, oh-by-the-way, lets do it by date of hire. A Brasilia captain with lots of longevity wanted to slide right over to the left seat of an L-1011. Well how do think that went over with Delta pilots?
You're right about the "short circuit". I should have directed that part of my response to "all" rather than you.
Originally Posted by
Nevets
Aren't a large amount of your pilots there without ever being interviewed by DAL? What's so great about their interview process compared to SWA or FDX, for example?
And why are you against your union wanting to hire members of your own union?
I've never interviewed with SWA or FDX, so I really don't know what's different, and truthfully my Delta interview was more than 20 years ago. You're also right a slew of pilots didn't interview here. I think there was some pain and some "bitterness" after the DAL-NWA merger, but IMHO that's behind us and the "melded" corporate culture is stronger.
I'm not against hiring fellow union members. I want Delta to hire the best applicants, period. Whether they're from another ALPA carrier, a non-union carrier, the corporate world or the military I don't think it should matter.