Originally Posted by Regularguy

First let me tell you I was there and knew the players. The reason why the deal went south wasn't Roger Hall as Capt. Billy wanted to portray it was then Sr VP Dave Pringle and Rakesh Gangwal who killed the deal.

How you might ask?

They made promises to the Frontier pilots about how they would be integrated into the flying at UAL. The short story is it violated all seniority, DOH, and longevity principals ALPA stood for. These management people wanted the deal to go their way without negotiation and the UAL MEC would not play their game. They were willing to negotiate according to ALPA guidelines and not Management's.

But wait it gets worse! while the negotiations were in limbo the Frontier Management decide to shut the airline down and force the deal. What happened next was this; United Management said, "NO DEAL!" They were negotiating for an operating company not a parked one. According to Rakesh the restart-up costs were not worth the money now and they could get the airplanes (Frontier had already sold the best ones previously to UAL) on their own.

Capt. Billy was looking for blame and as always it was Management who was at fault!

Moral of the story? You want a destroyed pilot group leave it up to management to make it happen.