When I first started reading Flaps 50 rant, I just thought he was an ignorant person. But now I see, he has an alterior motive. The facts are 2007 Pinnacle is vastly different than 1990s Pinnacle, as with Mesaba. Every company has rocky points in their history including Pinnacle, Mesaba and Big Purple.
I have worked for four airlines, CommutAir, ExpressJet, Pinnacle, and United. And my wife has worked for two. Every airline is the same. A lot of gossip and stories that would make your head spin. I have several close friends that fly for Mesaba, and I really believe that it is a "Great" place to work. But those same guys have told me just as many crazy stories about XJ as I have heard at at C5, 9E, XJT, and UA.
It seems some places have ingrown hatred towards others. My peeps at Mesaba say that overall Mesaba pilots have a lot of respect toward Pinnacle pilots. And I know for a fact that 9E pilots do respect their XJ breathern. We consider each other part of one family. Flaps 50 you are in your own boat, by yourself...shooting holes in the bottom.
When I was at ExpressJet the mentally (with younger pilots) was to hate CommutAir and CHQ for stealing our flying, and that we were special because we flew for only one airline and did not fly props. The cool older captains were quick to remind these guys that ExpressJet started by flying Props and stole other peoples flying to get where they were. Now ExpressJet is bidding for everyones flying, and even landed some Delta work. Still a lot of XJT pilots "hate" CommutAir and CHQ none the less, and rip them for no reason all over this forum. Exactly the same thing you are doing with 9E.
Your hatred toward 9E has cause you to have selective hearing of 9E's negatives. And you need to make the deep past, exactly that, deep past.
As for your continued "low time" hiring argument about 9E...that just shows complete ignorance. The facts are ExpressJet has ALWAYS been hiring lower time pilots than 9E, and no one rips them for that. Mesaba currently is hiring anyone that can breathe (even if they bring their own oxygen bottle). Should we look down upon this? No way. Supply and demand dictates this. This does not make ExpressJet and Mesaba worse than 9E because they hire lower time pilots.
The average hours in the last couple of classes at 9E has been around 1500TT, a much higher average than ExpressJet and Mesaba. When I was at ExpressJet, they had classes that did not have anyone over 1000 hours, and yes even though their mins say 600 TT, they have several people hired at much lower than 600 hours flying for them; doing a great job.
The biggest problem with this forum is people (like Flaps 50) who just type with angst, not calm, openminded, subjective, accurate information intended to help "everyone" in this wonderful industry.