Lets put it plain for the newbies at AE and for those that don't know. There is nothing that states a flow through has to go to AA. 2700 pilots on furlough and only 1000 retiring in the next 3 years that leaves plenty of furloughs left over. AA will be getting rid of the MD80 (300 of them). No they will not be replaced on a 1 for 1, at best it would be 2 80's for whatever 1. Thats 150 airplane for 300. This is at minimum 12 pilots per airplane, 3600 pilots MD80, 150 whatever aircraft at 12 that equals 1800 pilots required (minimum). There is an excess 1800 pilots off the MD80 plus 1700 furloughs left after 1000 for retirement. You see that the numbers 1700-1800 they are the dead at AA. They will not furlough again but they will keep those 1700 still out. This will not make AA have any new hire classes so no flow through will be leaving AE. AE will have over the next 10 years 448 retires plus 380 flow backs. That give AE 828 captain slots, that is an average 82 per year or 7 captains per month for the next 10 years. Oh unless AE gets larger aircraft the EMB135 and portion of the E140 will be parked because the profit margin on them is very slim.
So for the newbie ERJ135 don't get in a hurry to step on anyone. robthree, they want to maintain that seniority, in other words they don't want anyone over a max of seven years seniority on the property the question is how do they get rid of you,because you may for now be hoping and looking forward to the screw job of the senior pilots at AE but don't forget that you will if you stay be senior one day and what you going to say when they try the same thing on you. I know, your not going to stay here that long, how many pilots have said them same words only to find out how life changes and priorities change and the next thing you know is that you have been here 15 years or more.
Never wish to step over anyone because it always come back and bites your ass.
P.S. If line check get tougher, you fail also, it is both who fail not just one because you allowed whatever happened, happen without any intervention from you the other pilot who is part of the crew. P.C. there are three attempts and the last one is with the FEDS and ALPA in the box with you. Unless you are a total screw up, hard to fail. But anyone can be set up to fail in a sim but not when you have witnesses there the second and third attempt. Know what you spout or just stay quiet and read the posts.
Last edited by buddies8; 04-15-2007 at 05:24 PM.