David Barger - Co-Founder, Chief Executive officer, President, Director and Member of Airline Safety Committee
Sure, more than happy to. It's -- Helane, no, we believe that, really, the -- when we look at attraction, really, of pilots, we don't believe that's an issue, right. As we look at longer term, and again, Mark commented on it, you look at retaining pilots, right, that's the issue. I think we're well positioned. Again, at the number of applicants that we're seeing and prospective applicants, we feel good about that. We just want to make sure that we're retaining the pilot workforce.

"We are committed to paying pilot peer wages, and we are currently lagging that"

Mark Powers


All depends on how you look at things.