Progress like ALV+15? Maybe realign the number of days in the summer bid periods? If DALPA would stop selling contracts that require fewer pilots for X amount of flying and thus continuing our stagnation, many of us wouldn't have a problem with DALPA.

Voting "No" for C2012 had nothing to do with possibly getting more (although I think we could have) it had everything to do with the fact that we could of given up less. At this point in time after everything we have been through, this group shouldn't of given up anything!

The risk of DPA is better that knowing that DALPA will give the company almost anything they want.