Originally Posted by scambo1

DALPA talks about time value of money.

I don't know anyone who has actually laid the SWA compensation of the 80's 'til today - actual W-2 earnings - on a scale of years with SWA, including upgrade time, next to the equivalent at Delta. Until this is done using verifiable numbers, nobody can make a blanket statement that SWA pilots undercut anybody...or that they didn't. However, due to their initial rapid upgrades, my bet is that TVM was in favor of SWA.

Everybody can look up SWA's stated rates. That isn't now, and wasn't in the past, the whole story. Their work rules are different. They don't pay by the minute (which rewards safety) They pay by the "trip" (which rewards efficiency). They have liberal time +1/2 and doubletime rules which rapidly skyrocket their pay without requiring a minimum number of hours to get there.

Today's reality:
-We can't turn 1 week of vacation into 3.
-We build our own retirements.
-We have had initial employment promises broken.
-We outsource a ton of flying.

The difference between DALPA/ALPA and SWAPA is that SWAPA fights to KEEP the flying in-house and KEEP the contract benefits intact. SWAPA especially defends their section 1, they don't monetize it.

No one is saying everything our union does is bad. There has been a lot of good. Nobody disputes that new hires at SWA are going to be stagnant for years compared to previously.

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