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Old 11-06-2013 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Carl can't help but overreach. There are plenty of people that cruise these boards to sell a product, and Carl is probably the most prolific.
Just been calling them as I see them since I got here. Since one of the ALPA talking points is to equate DPA supporters with salesmen selling a [insert insult here], I'm interested that you call me a prolific seller. I'd like for you to find a single post of mine where I have ever advised or urged anyone to sign a DPA card. I don't believe I've ever done that one time. The only advice I've ever given here is for people to stay away from the sales pitches and pay attention to their own logical minds.

Originally Posted by Sink r8
I think he's found a case of ALPA guys getting caught in a sketchy endeavor, and right after he cleans up the mess in his shorts, he's going to milk this for all it's worth, on two threads. You can't really blame him, he's got no actual message about the product he's trying to sell.
The attempt at humor doesn't really work in your sentence. Regarding the sales allegation, see above.

Originally Posted by Sink r8
It may actually be that Carl is truly motivated by what's best for the group. I often wonder whether Carl actually believes what he sells, but considering he's one week attacking Roberts on the scourge effort to help DPA, and one week defending him to help friends against the recall effort, there is no way to tell.
With regard to the sales allegation, see above. I criticized Roberts for sending the "scourge" letter because it showed an over-emotional amateur in full fledged panic mode. I said exactly that at the time, even though I didn't know then that ALPA national wrote the "scourge" letter. I defended Roberts over the recall because the process was being subverted by Moak proxies who threatened LEC members with recall unless they voted Moak's way. It's entirely consistent.

Originally Posted by Sink r8
Just hang on while he targets you as an apologist. He will move on to the next person that doesn't pray at his self-absorbed altar soon enough. Right now, he seems to have a point about the four in C108 grossly overreaching, and he's able to ride the letter of a rep that actually seems well-intentioned. He's like a dog finally thrown a bone, and he's got to chew. It's not often that he can ride someone else's issue, and look like he actually has a legitimate point.
Your over-emotional attacks are clouding your message. Do you actually have a message?

Carl
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