Originally Posted by
TheManager
Easy. First SWAPA . They obviously never entered BK. They did not hand over their retirement as we did and never took the haircut in work rules and compensation as we did.
Pointing to them and saying that this is a sound strategy is disingenuous. Apples to oranges.
After contract C2K, SWAPA was aggressively agitating for like compensation on their next contract. 9/11 happened and they stayed with the incremental gains.
I think the disingenuous part is implying that SWA pilots "didn't hand over" a DB retirement plan that they never had in the first place. They have only had an option to get a company
match on a portion of their 401k contributions. Historically, I can never recall SWAPA having negotiated compensation rates that exceeded the rest of the industry at the time of their negotiations.
Originally Posted by
TheManager
We were able to get C2K directly because of 3b6.
We gave that away in c2k. For that reason, but primarily due to work rule changes, changes to reserve, and pbs, I voted no. Sure the $$$ was fantastic. But being relatively junior then, the work rules impacted my young family more profoundly than the $$$ enhanced it. Remember, current pay rates did not impact retirement then unless you were in your final 3 years.
3B6 led to gains during the time frame of introducing the 777 and 73N fleets. The 777 rate (or "Delta Dot") was used to pattern bargain by the United pilots when they achieved their contract. Subsequent to the United contract, we achieved C2k. 3B6 certainly helped our progression to C2k, but it wasn't the reason we got C2k. We had someone else to pattern bargain off of.
The PBS reference in regard to C2k is complete fiction. PBS came several years later in Letter 46 as we attempted to avoid bankruptcy in December 2004.
I'm not sure exactly what you are referencing regarding negative reserve changes in C2k. I recall that we went from having 2 mandatory short call windows for every reserve day to the concept of long call with a 12 hour leash and limited short call assignments.