No. You STILL don't get it. You guys are trying to say I'm blaming the state of the industry on DALPA. That's not what I said. The state of the industry has to do with 9/11, bankruptcy, and management that took unfair advantage of those things to significantly lower pilot costs (IMO way more than was absolutely necessary). I think DALPA agreed to way too much on concessions, but that was only ONE PART of what brought about the current "state of the industry." We cannot change that those things happened, so what's important is how we react (reacted) once the crisis was past. For Delta, that moment was a little over 6 years ago.

Delta came out of bankruptcy with a good outlook for the future. And DALPA acted like everything was going pretty well for our pilots... no mention of anything like restoration. Welcome to DALPA's "new normal."

Then, in 2012, we had a company that had successfully put together one of the most if not THE most impressive mergers in the history of the industry and was making VERY significant profits, with an outlook for more of the same or even better. Did DALPA go for anything like restoration? Did DALPA even go for anything like what our pilots (after years of DALPA working to lower expectations) indicated on their surveys? No. DALPA gets 4-8.5-3-3 and allows more large RJ's so that Delta can provide a better product to our customers using pilots that are not Delta pilots. This, followed by a full court press sales pitch, complete with scare tactics, to get just enough of our pilots to be sure it gets voted in.

From 2007 through today (as I said before, because of the success of our company and the prominence of our pilot group), we've been in a position of leadership to set the bar for the industry. We've set a low bar. How can you possibly not recognize that this has hurt everyone's chances of restoration, including ours?

Now if your objective is not restoration, then it's a whole different story...