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Old 11-25-2013 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
First. I'd rather see DALPA have the nut sack to post restoration as their goal. It would be reflective of our wishes as pilots and DALPA knows this as well from the surveys.

It would be preferable to see them stand up and be insistent and fight for it. If we unified and used all the leverage we legally could and attained it, GREAT!

If we did not attain restoration, then we left everything on the field and we gave it 100%

I am ashamed that DALPA hasn't even tried.

If DPA prevails and they try for restoration, that is more than DALPA has done in this regard. If they succeed, excellent. If they fall short, they made the effort. It won't be a failure as much as not trying and delivering a full court sales job on 4-8-3-3 is.

Why would DALPA limit themselves to 18.2% raises next time? Oh you mean full restoration like with buying power too, oh and pensions?(yeah lets put our retirement back in the hands of those that terminated em)


Point is, the word restoration feels good, but has multiple meanings for a lot of pilots here at DAL.

What does it mean for a fNWA guy/gal versus a fDAL guy/gal? What were NWA's former top rates? Does this PWA hit em? How close does it get?

See I was less than thrilled with last years PWA, but it was determined, debated, resolved. Its high time we move on and focus on now what we should have done, but how we work going forward. Difference today is a company with real profits, not projections, a S&P listed company, one paying dividends, one paying exces and others well, and one that has lead the industry in PRASM for something like 23 of the last 24 quarters. We are also going to be in a "up economy" with the rest of the industry effectively equal on total compensation. I'd say the negotiating environment looks better this round, kind of like C2K with some notable differences, like debt.

I'd also say that DAL pilots have previously enjoyed a premium from the rest of the US sector and given where we are, it is time to put that back as a discussion point. Openers are 15 months out so lets look forward.

Last edited by acl65pilot; 11-25-2013 at 03:06 AM.
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