Cynicism aside, that brings up an interesting concept. Can the pilot group be "sold", or does it make reasonable choices regardless of the presentation?

It's important now because we've watched DPA "selling" for over 4 years, and less than half of the pilot group are buying. So, is the pilot group too easily swayed to make good decisions in the face of a "sell job"?

The DPA is clearly "selling". They have a unique advantage right now because they have no record for pilots to evaluate. They've never had to make a tough choice in a crisis. They've never had to count votes to see of the pilot group is with them. They've had 4 years, and we're not.

How much longer does the "selling" need to continue unsuccessfully for the salesmen to pack it up, and start helping ALPA move forward?