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Old 11-25-2013 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
We had just as strong an environment for C2012 and you did nothing but parrot the DALPA party line of taking the first offer before Section 6 even began. You'll do the exact same thing for C2015/2016. I'm sure you're helping DALPA write the excuse now as to why we could only get more COLA raises and make the RJ experiment healthier for management. You will advocate for the weakest position...absolutely guaranteed.
No the environment was not the same. We were not back on the S&P, not paying a dividend, not doing stock buyback and our margins were not where they are now. It is different. almost 2/3rds of the pilots voted in favor much to my surprise and guess what, you cannot change it. Time to look forward and focus on the next round.


More slippery double talk. How about saying: "Given where we are now, it's time discuss leading the US airline industry in every measurable contractual metric?"

Carl
Sounds like a great idea and I am sure that is a goal of every Rep, but a lack of a pension will always be a gotcha in a statement like that. I would say that what we do not lead in we are close. Its always been that way too. Look at AMR pay and even UAL pay versus us. Look at our 2015 rates versus FDX and UPS too. Sure would be nice if someone would have one upped us last year, but UAL does not do that until after we are amendable.
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