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Old 11-26-2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Splash
Were the Delta pilots "purposefully misinformed" when they ratified C2K?
According to my Delta buds, yes they were. DALPA heavily minimized how much of the gains were at the expense of massive scope give-aways.

Originally Posted by Splash
Were the Northwest pilots "purposefully misinformed" when they ratified the 2004 pay rates?
I didn't think so because NWALPA put out a pro and con paper. I felt I was able to make an informed decision that way. I voted NO because the con side showed me we were putting too much of the burden on the bottom 25% of the pilot list.

Originally Posted by Splash
Aren't those the rates you want restored?
Not just rates. I want the entirety of our contract restored...at a minimum. You need to get beyond thinking of rates as the end all and be all. A lot more than rates were taken from us by bankruptcy judges. Therefore a lot more than rates need to be restored.

Originally Posted by Splash
Rates ratified by a "purposefully misinformed" pilot group should be restored? Why? Those guys were misinformed.
See above.

Originally Posted by Splash
And how should we view the pilots who voted AGAINST those two contracts? Were they especially perceptive to have voted no? Were they manipulation-resistant?
I just posted why I voted no.

Carl
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