Originally Posted by
Slats
Oh wow that PIC time is sooooooo cool. However, we've had numerous FOs hired by mainline despite their lack of PIC. Let me guess, you have busted checkrides, maybe a DUI, no formal education ect... Which is why you're narrowing down your choices.
Food for thought, getting to mainline is getting harder an harder as regionals vote in concessions to fly larger aircraft. United is parking 757s, American is ordering 175s and more 900s, Delta is looking for carriers that fly 175s. Why??? Because we're cheap labor!!! You'll fly the same routes compared to mainline for 1/4 of the cost!! wake up, do some research. Retirements will spur hiring but hell, at this rate mainline can furlough their guys have them rehired and PSA or Mesa and staff those RJs that are flying ALL domestic flights. All while mainline focuses it's fleet on International flying. Get a clue
Sooo you have had numerous FO's hired with no PIC. Would you disagree that PIC makes it easier to get hired? By a lot? Now for your ridiculous assumptions about someone you don't know... No failures. No DUI. Associates degree and taking classes. Will be done in 2 years or less with a bachelors easily. Then you proceed to talk about the challenges of getting to mainline. Wait a minute... Two sentences ago FO's were getting hired. Guess it isn't all that hard after all? Maybe you just need to justify why YOU can't get a job? That would explain a lot. I know people at EVERY major airline in the US. The two chief pilots and one recruiter I know personally all tell me that with PIC I will get an interview and at delta and united I need to finish the degree and then get the 1000 pic to get a call. I'm not special. I am not the only one that knows people. Not by a long shot. MOST pilots that take career progression seriously know a lot more people at mainline than I do. This business is networking. Perhaps that is why you are still here on a regional forum criticizing people that are likely to get the call before you. I would help out anyone I could to progress in their career. Even you! When I move on wherever it is I won't forget this. If you don't network you will retire on an RJ and while there is NOTHING WRONG with that IF that is what you want, it isn't for me. I do not want to work at the regional level any longer than I need to. The recipe is simple and nobody can deny this. No failures, accidents, violations, or dui's with a degree and pic properly networked will get you calls. It isn't rocket science. Sad thing is, outside of the forum here if I were on your jumpseat and you said, "I want to work at xyz airline" I could probably give you someone to call that you could add to your networking Rolodex that would help you out. And before you say, "no you wouldn't do that..." Yes I would. I don't have a lot of flight time. Chances are I help you out, when I need the help you would help me if I was the one that got you the mainline job. That's the way it works. Backscratching per se. I hate having to "defend" myself here as I am a pretty low key easy going guy just trying to make my way in this business the best I can, but the personal attacks are a little irritating. Even if it is APC and it is to be expected. I know that for me to achieve the goals I want I need PIC time. That's what I'm after. It's that simple.