Originally Posted by Chrisw

Sooo you have had numerous FO's hired with no PIC. Would you disagree that PIC makes it easier to get hired? By a lot? Now for your ridiculous assumptions about someone you don't know... No failures. No DUI. Associates degree and taking classes. Will be done in 2 years or less with a bachelors easily. Then you proceed to talk about the challenges of getting to mainline. Wait a minute... Two sentences ago FO's were getting hired. Guess it isn't all that hard after all? Maybe you just need to justify why YOU can't get a job? That would explain a lot. I know people at EVERY major airline in the US. The two chief pilots and one recruiter I know personally all tell me that with PIC I will get an interview and at delta and united I need to finish the degree and then get the 1000 pic to get a call. I'm not special. I am not the only one that knows people. Not by a long shot. MOST pilots that take career progression seriously know a lot more people at mainline than I do. This business is networking. Perhaps that is why you are still here on a regional forum criticizing people that are likely to get the call before you. I would help out anyone I could to progress in their career. Even you! When I move on wherever it is I won't forget this. If you don't network you will retire on an RJ and while there is NOTHING WRONG with that IF that is what you want, it isn't for me. I do not want to work at the regional level any longer than I need to. The recipe is simple and nobody can deny this. No failures, accidents, violations, or dui's with a degree and pic properly networked will get you calls. It isn't rocket science. Sad thing is, outside of the forum here if I were on your jumpseat and you said, "I want to work at xyz airline" I could probably give you someone to call that you could add to your networking Rolodex that would help you out. And before you say, "no you wouldn't do that..." Yes I would. I don't have a lot of flight time. Chances are I help you out, when I need the help you would help me if I was the one that got you the mainline job. That's the way it works. Backscratching per se. I hate having to "defend" myself here as I am a pretty low key easy going guy just trying to make my way in this business the best I can, but the personal attacks are a little irritating. Even if it is APC and it is to be expected. I know that for me to achieve the goals I want I need PIC time. That's what I'm after. It's that simple.