Thanks grumble, that is a great post I have read before and has been bookmarked. It provides a great framework. I guess the title of my OP could have been a little more specific...since I was looking for the max time you can defer training after getting hired. Sounds like UA is 12 months per hilltoppers post above, I'm curious if others like DL, AA, etc. have a defined time period as well...thanks!